Wow, Quebec has made some pretty screwed up decisions when it comes to rape, child abuse and spousal abuse, but this decision to say that this guy was too nuts to be criminally responsible for killing his two babies is just too ridiculous for words. Where else would a Doctor, an educated man get 11 people and a judge to agree that the case was not about whether he killed his children, but what mattered was how bad he was feeling because his wife left him, but in Quebec .
This guy, this doctor, this loving father, Guy Turcotte , was so depressed that he wanted to commit suicide, but thinking of his kids finding him dead decides he can’t have that, I will take them with me. Guy Turcotte, did not say, I will give the children to my wife, or to protective service, but Guy Turcotte said I will kill them; sounds like premeditated murder to me; appears to be a choice, a conscious decision. Guy Turcotte drinks windshield fluid and then goes into his little boys room and begins to stab him to death. Guy Turcotte ‘s son pleads to his father to stop and Guy Turcotte is brought back to reality and admits that at this point he is aware that he is hurting his son, but does Guy Turcotte stop? No, Guy Turcotte makes another conscious decision, another choice to finish the job; sounds like premeditation to me. His own words were,
“I have a knife in my hands, I stabbed him and Olivier told me ‘No!’,” “He struggles and I realize I’m hurting him. I panicked and stabbed him some more.”
After stabbing his screaming son to death in his bed covered in blood does this loving father and doctor, Guy Turcotte, who is thinking solely of his children’s well-being stop and try to get help; not Guy Turcotte, he proceeds down the hall to his helpless little girls room and with all the love left in him, Guy Turcotte proceeds to brutally stab her to death for her own good; not panicked anymore and fully aware of the pain she will feel and what he is doing. I am sorry to have to say this to the jury, but this is further evidence that me to think premeditated murder, and not temporary insanity.
I guess the most puzzling part for me though, is that Guy Turcotte is still alive and that other than drink some windshield washer Guy Turcotte made no other attempt to kill himself. Guy Turcotte does not stab himself with the knife in his hands, the same knife he used to kill his little babies in their beds with. Why does Guy Turcotte not use that knife on himself? This doctor claims he wanted to stab himself in the heart and went looking for a knife to do just that; why was Guy Turcotte looking for a knife when he already had a knife? Why are the only people dead because of his attempted suicide his little kids? I would love to know when they searched the little girls room just how hidden the knife Guy Turcotte used to kill his little sleeping daughter really was. I can’t understand how he could not know where it was, if not still in his hands. Most people in shock just drop he weapon and it falls right at their feet.
Was this a crime of punishment for the good doctor, directed at his ex-wife for leaving him? After all if Guy Turcotte wanted to really commit suicide he was trained to do it and was fully aware of what it would take and how long it would take, so what in the end stopped him from meeting the same fate as his little ones? I would hazard to say that he never intended to die, but was totally consumed with punishing his ex-wife for leaving him. The brutality in the method he used to end his children’s lives, does not show love. This man was a trained doctor and knew exactly how much pain these children, his children would be in when he stabbed them to death. He did not use a pillow over their faces, or administer them an injection and let them die peacefully in their sleep, which he could have done, so that at least their deaths could have been painless. No I contend that a bitter, selfish man brutally took out his anger on his children, killing them in the most horrific, painful way he could think of and maybe even pretending that it was his ex-wife he was stabbing. This is just my theory and it need not be yours. We have only his word that the children were consoling him earlier that night and even if they were what a way to thank them.
I am no lawyer, but this case stinks; everything about this case stinks and that a judge in the province of Quebec would say that the jury should be proud of itself despite what the public reaction to their decision is, makes this case stink even more.
Superior Court Justice Marc David assured the people who found cardiologist Guy Turcotte criminally not responsible for having stabbed his children to death that they could be proud of their work, regardless of the public reaction.
Trial over Guy Turcotte gets sent to a mental facility with no time to serve in jail. Guy Turcotte is just going to be evaluated and a determination will be made as to the likelihood of his re offending. If the determination is made that Guy Turcotte will not likely re offend and that his mental situation has stabilised, than Guy Turcotte is to be set free. If this happens and the only consequence to Guy Turcotte killing his two helpless babies by brutally stabbing them to death, is to be time spent in the psychiatric ward, what message are we sending to depressed parents and where does that leave us? More importantly where does it leave the children of divorce?
The court by allowing this mockery of justice, has said that the murdered children of Guy Turcotte did not count in this case, because Daddy was too depressed to know what he was doing. Well there are thousands of depressed daddies and mommies who are stressed out, unhappy with their divorces, our court system and their lot in life and we have just told them that it is okay to kill their children to ease their pain. Quebec, through the actions of Superior Court Justice Marc David has said, that it is okay under these circumstance to kill your children. The 11 jurors and the defense counsel, psychiatrists and Superior Court Justice Marc David have made it possible to use depression as a way to defend murdering ones children in their beds. The Quebec justice system has told the population that outside of getting checked out mentally you have nothing to fear from the law, if you decide to brutally murder your children in their sleep.
I am straining my ears, but I do not hear any out crying from the capital. Where is the protest from the tough on crime Tories. I have not heard a word from any political party denouncing this decision and that is a scary thing. I wish I could say that the decision surprises me, but it does not. This type of thing happens all of the time, in Quebec. When a group of Haitians raped a woman years ago the judge said that it was just a cultural thing accepting the argument of the defense that this is how they do it in Haiti. All of the child sexual abuse cases that go to trial and end up with lenient sentences being handed out to people who have been found guilty of repeatedly abusing and raping, women and children throughout their lives is just mind-boggling. These serial abusers rapists and even murderers getting a couple of months to a couple of years in jail shows that these cases are not taken seriously by the judicial system. Judges, politicians and I guess certain citizens seem to think that these acts and the harm to the children they cause, is not an issue. It is like high-profile personalities are deemed to good to go to jail and that the devastation they cause when they commit these heinous crimes do not count for much.
Two babies will not grow up, will never go to school, never get to dance, never get to fall in love, or know marriage, because their father thought that it was best that they die in order to save them the shock of finding him dead from a suicide that he did not follow through with. So he will get to live and if I am correct not do any serious time either in jail, or in a place for the criminally insane getting help. For the first time I find myself speechless and as I write this I am weeping for the children. Not just for the children that were slain by their depressed father, but for all of the children that are now in real danger from a legal decision and process that demonstrated that it just does not care about women, or children. The Province of Quebec and Superior Court Justice Marc David will have the distinction of setting the president in law for allowing, “The I killed my children because I was depressed defense” and allowing it to be successful, with the Superior Court Justice Marc David actually praising the jury for coming to the right conclusion. I see why people take the law into their own hands. When the law allows the brutal killing of innocent children and allows the perpetrator of such a horrible crime to go essentially free without being punished, it just makes you want to right the wrong.
I am ashamed for all involved in this miscarriage of justice. I see you as a disgrace to your professions. You will be as guilty of murder as the depressed parent that kills the next child and claims the temporary insanity defense because their spouse left them; a defense that you made possible, as a result of your decision in the Guy Turcotte case decision. Shame on you all who thought that the lives of 2 innocent children taken by their father in such a brutal way had no bearing on his punishment. None of you could possibly have children, or a heart. I do not know how you are sleeping at night, but I hope the pictures of those dead children haunt your every sleeping hour. I hope for a long time to come that the memory of these children haunt your every waking hour as well, so that you know no peace. In my opinion you were wrong and have endangered every child whose parents are going through a divorce. Well done Quebec, at the rate you are going you will be childless and there will be no women left for you to abuse if you ever were to achieve your independence. If you continue to make it easy for murderers to kill them and get away with it what chance of survival are you giving them and what kind of people will the survivors end up being? A province, a country, a judicial system that would allow a murderer of 2 innocent babies sleeping in their beds to go free could never be considered responsible enough to govern themselves, could they?
- Controversial Turcotte case culminates in board hearing (ctv.ca)
- Quebecers to protest Turcotte verdict Saturday (cbc.ca)
- Protesters across Quebec denounce verdict in Turcotte child-death case (theglobeandmail.com)
- Killer Guy Turcotte’s review hearing postponed (canada.com)